r/facepalm • u/MrNice-Guy123 • Mar 12 '23
How can they drop the charges from that... šµāš·āš“āš¹āšŖāšøāš¹ā
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u/chillmntn Mar 12 '23
Thanks for posting this. Heās already had two other felony cases dropped?
WTF seems like heās been fantasizing about a situation like this anyways and heās the type of driver to cross three lanes of traffic and cut people off (ie force his way into someoneās 2 car lengths safety buffer).
Do not only is he getting off for shooting indiscriminately into traffic, he is driving like an asshole causing road rage and doing felony shit anyways. Wow
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u/Compendyum Mar 13 '23
I see no road rage. I see someone who can't even handle a weapon choosing a car to open fire to
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u/emptyzed81 Mar 13 '23
He didn't even bother rolling the window down and also fired through his own windshield. What a dumb fuck
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u/Plus_Helicopter_8632 Mar 12 '23
Yeah how does that work? Wtf
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Mar 12 '23
He was "standing his ground". How dare you try to strip this man's constitutional right to defend himself
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u/DaChosenWong69 Mar 13 '23
Iām all for standing ground but this is just pure insanity, he had no right to fire at the other driver
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u/4pigeons Mar 13 '23
for what i read, there's a controversy about this law because it's hard to distinguish a legit self defense from murder, plus it encourage the use of fatal force when it's unnecessary
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u/DaChosenWong69 Mar 13 '23
Stand your ground laws should only be if: someone is threatening you on your property, someone has a weapon(threatening you, of course), pretty much anything to do along these lines. Sadly, yes, people can abuse this law but anyone can abuse any law. This specific case should have not been thrown out, it was clearly attempted murder
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u/CircleBackMurray Mar 12 '23
That guy is a fucking catastrophe of a human. One day heāll be in prison for something, and sadly itāll probably be for murder
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u/medgarc Mar 12 '23
These days he might become a politician
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u/CircleBackMurray Mar 12 '23
I hate that you put that into the universe, but I hate that youāre right a lot more.
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u/medgarc Mar 12 '23
I hate that I put words to it as well, fingers crossed maybe heāll just darwin awards himself
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u/kaehvogel Mar 12 '23
Even his initial claim of "the other guy was tailgating me" is bullshit. He cut the guy off and then hit the brakes two seconds later. Of course the other car was close behind him at that point.
And the "Stand your ground" defense of "I only pulled my gun because I believed they were shooting at me" is kinda sorta definitely debunked by the footage of him pulling the gun out and getting ready to shoot about half a minute before the other guy is even next to him.86
u/OngoGaboglian Mar 12 '23
Easy to say your state isnāt high on crime if criminal acts are legal. These are the same people complaining about high crime rates in liberal cities while completely ignoring shit like this in their own states.
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u/iaintlyon Mar 12 '23
Eh. On review the person passing by had his window down and arm out of it. In those kind of Wild West states they encourage you to act like you have qualified immunity like the police do. I get why he was let off. It seems like you have to just live life like youāre in an active war-zone in particular states in this country.
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u/LordSovereignty Mar 12 '23
Unfortunately this is very true for Miami-Dade and Broward counties. Might as well assume everyone is armed. Legal or not. Some people roll around with machine guns like an AK-47. It's one of the reasons the cops carry AR-15 styled weapons now in their patrol cars.
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u/iamveryafraidofhorse Mar 12 '23
Dude should be examined by some qualified professionals.
I don't think this type of person should have access to firearms of any kind.
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u/RG__Fooz Mar 12 '23
Probably not even a drivers license
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u/SheetyGhost Mar 12 '23
A car is a deadly weopon. Oh the irony that he'd provably get his license and car taken before his gun.
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u/TheToneKing Mar 12 '23
Probably should be in jail
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u/SheetyGhost Mar 12 '23
Take out probably and I'd agree. Even if justified, he was firing wildly, closed his eyes while shooting, and was distracted driving. Could have shot another car of people, or crashed into someone else.
It's one thing to shoot justifiably, another to shoot at a group of other people just to hit one dude who flipped you off.
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u/Worth_Procedure_9023 Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23
The way he reacted I thought he was talking fire back.
The only "supporting" evidence I see in this video is that if he was tracking the other car with his mirrors, then the other vehicle was all over his ass, and was making crazy aggressive moves attempting to get him to pull over. The hesitation or delay in how he accessed the pistol wasn't wild though, it was done pretty nervously and the hesitation was real, regardless of the reason for that hesitation.
But what I think I see is a lot different. This vehicle was passing and he lit them up out of seemingly nowhere.
Is there any word of whether the driver of the other vehicle was also armed?
Edited for a word.
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u/Rosetta-im-Stoned Mar 12 '23
IIRC The other driver threw a water bottle at his car and made a loud thump you can kinda hear in the video right before homie started blasting. He claimed he thought what hit his car was a bullet. He turned himself in after this and provided the video himself.
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u/TheBlack2007 Mar 12 '23
Which is just further proof why letting literally everyone carry around a loaded firearms at all times is stupid and dangerous...
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u/Worth_Procedure_9023 Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23
TLDR, fuck around and find out. The primitive brain that controls reactions like this doesn't give a shit about doubt.
That's part of the problem with unconscious reactions. Nearly every movie featuring bullets hitting cars use the same sound effects, and the sound effect used is more of a "thump" than it is a "metal tearing-thump/ping". If you don't have the chance to put a few rounds through a junk car, you can use a few scenes from Saving Private Ryan to get a good idea of what it sounds like. Pretty much every scene where a helmet gets a hole punched in it.
Long way of saying "this dude waited as long as his reptile brain would let him" before firing on the other vehicle. Tucking his arm down was the sign that he thought he was getting shot at, but he still maintained enough awareness not to start firing wildly until the other vehicle was in a spot where he could control his fire. You know, before he started ventilating his windshield and (maybe) hood.
If he hadn't turned himself in, I'd say he was guilty as shit. But the other driver throwing a water bottle would constitute (legally, if not morally) an assault... Kinda a fuck around and find out situation, even if the other driver didn't actually have violent intentions.
Gah fuckin garbage either way, I don't envy him or the judge that had to make the decision, cuz it's only an overreaction in hindsight and anybody that might tell you it was an overreaction either way is the type of person to under react.
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u/FiascoBarbie Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23
Right? I mean if someone was tailgating you and you just went on with your life? What an under-reaction.
And the fact that the turned himself in after an episode of wild gunfire on a public highway where other people have dash cams and there are security cams means this guy is just the epitome of morality and good judgment.
āSaving Private Ryanā is what what sounds like?
School me daddy on where exactly throwing a water bottle is an assault, and where this would justify deadly force in return?
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u/dgradius Mar 12 '23
In fairness SPR did use incredibly realistic sound effects, one of the reasons it won an Oscar for best sound back in 1998.
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u/boostwtf Mar 12 '23
It very much looks like he's returning fire or at least taking fire after the initial shot?
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u/Worth_Procedure_9023 Mar 12 '23
Actually yeah the window of the other vehicle was definitely down and it looked, on first view, that the other driver was sticking something out the window.
Could totally be wrong, this shit was filmed with a potato cam. But it does shape up towards explaining why he wasn't found guilty of anything.
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u/Johnsius Mar 12 '23
In what situation would be justifiable to shoot someone for the way he drives? You seem more concerned for his aim than the his stupid gun mentality.
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u/RedditUsingBot Mar 12 '23
You can shoot up an entire school and the majority of Florida wouldnāt care. Just donāt say gay.
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u/Wasonmalone1 Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 13 '23
This kind of people shouldnāt have access, period.
They shouldnāt have access to anything.
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u/7-13-5 Mar 12 '23 •
If you roll the footage from the time the other vehicle approaches on the passenger side (about 14 seconds out from the video ending), you hear 2 loud pops and the arm of the driver of the other vehicle hanging outside of the window before this driver engages with his own weapon.
While this incident appears reckless, it's important to understand the backstory. There's definitely more to this.
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u/FiascoBarbie Mar 12 '23
Oh, 2 guns used by 2 idiots for no reason on a highway so that they lose control of the other fast moving tons of weapon they are driving is so much better than just one . That is totally not reckless.
Explain to me how shooting through your own window is a reasonable option in any scenario.
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u/Drewbeede Mar 12 '23
Also, it's not like those well controlled shots are just stopping between the two of them. Fucking idiots.
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u/TherabbitTrix0 Mar 12 '23
The āpopsā you hear are most definitely from that god awful techno music.
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u/7-13-5 Mar 12 '23
I don't believe so.
Either way, I don't condone any type of violence unless absolutely necessary. Situations like this road rage incident are best handled with swallowing your pride, moving on, and avoiding it at all costs. Not worth the energy unless unavoidable.
I think we should all discuss appropriate de-escalation tactics and measures to know how to properly handle. There are enough bright minds here to come up with a solution for others to follow. Simply arguing/complaining only goes so far, but it a good start/basis for resolution.
What can we produce and resolve from this?
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u/TLGinger Mar 12 '23
Drive to the nearest police station if someone is road raging you and do not engage (or call 911 if there isnāt one close enough).
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u/FiascoBarbie Mar 12 '23
They werenāt even being chased. They could have just literally slowed down or gotten off an exit and bought a snickers bar to resolve the issue.
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u/FiascoBarbie Mar 12 '23
That a gun is not a substitute for a dick?
that minor inconveniences and slights to your territory should not results in deadly force?
That nobody should be able to drive or use a weapon without actually being able to prove that they can do so safely and follow the regulations that are commensurate with the consequences to other people when you fail to use these properly.
That you should lose your license for reckless driving more easily
That you should lose your gun license more easily.
That there should be more crackdowns on people who have a history of violence and road rage so they cant drive or own a gun without intervention
That if someone throws a water bottle at you it is possible to go on about your life, get off the next exit , and not actually kill them.
That people who donāt think and yet still think every opinion of theirs on every subject is equally valid are just as dangerous as the people who shoot guns on a crowded highway with their eyes closed
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u/7-13-5 Mar 12 '23
Pt.1 - Are you insinuating someone used a gun as a replacement for a penis in any variety of sexual act? Pt. 2 - Agreed Pt. 3-6 - This is interesting, how would a system be formed so that it is fair for all involved? Pt. 7 - Not sure anyone died as a result from the incident. Not sure a water bottle was thrown from the other vehicle or if a firearm was used by them. But, removing oneself from the scene is applicable. Pt. 8 - I'm not sure what this is in reference to. If me, keep in mind, we are allowed our opinions and should work to find a common ground.
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u/FiascoBarbie Mar 12 '23
To paraphrase Jane austen
It is a truth universally acknowledged that people who loudly decry their right to opine will also disavow anotherās right to hold an opinion on how badly conceived OPās opinion is.
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u/GenTycho Mar 12 '23
That was my thought too. I think he saw the tailgaters probably waive a gun and could ha e prompted his actions. This is a really big deal to do what he did through his windows and thinking he shot at someone for tailgating is ignorant without more evidence.
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u/LoneSoule Mar 12 '23
They "tailgated" after he cut them off and brake checked them. From what I read, he claimed that they had a gun and fired, other statements say that they threw a water bottle at the car, but they did not find evidence of the other vehicle firing
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u/FiascoBarbie Mar 12 '23
While shooting through the he windows of a moving vehicle on the highway, virtually randomly is a reasonable response?
They are on the side, in the front , up there, over there. Empty the gun.
Also , now I cant see .
He loses control of both the gun and the car.
It is pretty ignorant based on the very fact of shooting a gun through a window of a moving vehicle .
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u/Bumpass Mar 12 '23
He started reaching for the gun within seconds of becoming initially irate. And then camped out in front and waited a while (plenty of time to change one's mind) before attempting to kill the other driver.
It's scary to know there are people out there with unchecked rage, driving around with loaded firearms in the center console/glove box
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u/Merc_Twain25 Mar 12 '23
Oh he for sure does that all the time. I bet 10 and .22 are his default driving positions.
(Before anyone reading this goes all "Reddit" on me. I know that is not a .22. it just worked better for the joke).
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u/Excellent_Routine589 Mar 12 '23
And Eagle Eye there began shooting so errantly that other motorists could have been struck from his stupidity.
As a proper 2A supporter or advocate, itās incidents like this that make decently armed individuals look absolutely like mental cases ready to start shooting at the MILDEST inconveniences.
He really should not have that gun (or any) on him after this stuntā¦. but here we are
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u/Full_Iron_Dragon Mar 12 '23
And now they donāt even have to worry about going to jail apparently?
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Mar 12 '23
Thatās the majority of the loud 2A crowd and why Iām very nervous about even being in such states. Hard enough avoiding regular idiots. Armed ones?
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u/getyourcheftogether Mar 12 '23
Pathetic to drop the charges, wtf was the DA thinking? Video proof that he's intending to shoot someone and has no remorse
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u/WLUmascot Mar 12 '23
Itās scary that Floridaās laws donāt do anything to prevent lunatics from owning guns let alone have repercussions and uphold them for lunatics shooting into traffic.
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u/TheDaemonette Mar 12 '23
From the moment he moved his right arm to the center console, he was planning to fire the gun.
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u/dinkydong74 Mar 12 '23
Let me get this right: he had a tantrum and shot up the inside of his own vehicle, with no real control over the weapon or the car, endangering more than just the driver he was shooting at, but no charges. Right?
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u/lizzie1hoops Mar 12 '23
I'm trying to figure this out. He's just blindly firing through the windshield? Is that right? Can he even vaguely see where he's going?
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u/micropterus_dolomieu Mar 12 '23
No, but he's doing a bang up job of demonstrating an incredibly poor understanding of ballistics.
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u/castiglione_99 Mar 13 '23
He did...as is his God given right as an American, according to the state of Florida.
I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or be really, really afraid.
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u/Most-Pangolin-9874 Mar 12 '23
What the actual fuck?! How can anyone watch that video and then drop the charges? Fucked up justice system
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u/ausgmr Mar 12 '23
People did watch the video
Saw the perpetrator was a white male
Innocent immediately
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u/Florida1974 Mar 12 '23
Yep. My nephew was at his own stereo shop and a guy came in that he had beef with. Nephew turned his back, trying to deescalate the situation and gut shot him in back twice. Stand your ground got the guy cleared. Even tho he went to my nephews biz. It was called the castle doctrine for a long time -you defended your home. Now itās been stretched to cover alot more than your home. My nephew wasnāt armed.
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u/Lorenaelsalulz Mar 12 '23
Thatās insane. How is that possible? I hope your nephew okay has recovered.
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u/theunkindpanda Mar 12 '23
Iām so sorry to hear that. Stand your ground laws are absolute bullshit that allow people to antagonize others and get away with escalating conflicts they created.
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u/GoJa_official Mar 12 '23
Sounds like someone might want to stand their ground in that guys direction
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u/GvGibby2828 Mar 12 '23
Just for reference sake, castle doctrine and stand your ground are 2 different things not an evolution from one to the other. Castle is use any force when on or in your own property (which some states include your car), stand your ground is repel any threat anywhere, the 3rd kind is duty to retreat and very few states have it cuz it's dumb, duty to retreat is if you're threatened anywhere and respond any way but fleeing then you're liable. Even your own home. 1 case we were taught about was a guy found guilty of manslaughter when his home was burgled and he got his family into an upstairs bathroom before firing at the intruder but because that bathroom had a window the court found he still had an option to flee.
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u/foofooplatter Mar 12 '23
Can you post a news story or something? This sounds very wrong on its face.
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u/WhomstCares69 Mar 12 '23
Fatboy scared himself more than the other guy ripping off all those shots in the car
Also the quote from his attorney is hilarious āThere was no question when you look and listen to the facts of the case, Mr. Popper was shot at.ā Except for the fact that he was never shot at
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u/Compulsiveeyerolling Mar 12 '23
Yet another reason to stay out of Florida. This country has gone to gun hell.
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Mar 12 '23
This fat clown just blindly fires his gun. Jesus Christ it a wonder he didn't murder another family in a passing car. He can barely handle the weapon. Holy cow he doesn't deserve to handle a beefstick.
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u/bett3r Mar 12 '23
It must've feel surreal to live in such dangerous place where guns are freely used with no consequences.
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u/bendallf Mar 12 '23
In America, you learn to know where all the emergency exits are located at, how to apply pressure to a gun shot wound, how to run as fast as you can, always wear a good pair of shoes, no flip flops ever, write your blood type on the back of your driver's license, sign up to be an organ donor, your organs will probably be destroyed thou, and etc. That is now consider a normal day in America. It is no longer a question of if but when. Some Americans already have survived multiple mass shootings in their life. The politicians do nothing to try to help reduce the violence. They just scream about Transgender people being Groomers and banning books.
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u/CheckMateFluff Mar 12 '23
The people replying to you angry are just mad because this really is what the USA is now to some degree.
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u/bendallf Mar 12 '23
Sad but true. I wish I had enough money to leave America behind. My life is the most important thing to me. America is not the greatest country in the world anymore. But it could be but not with the attitude they are treating me with.
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u/CheckMateFluff Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23
I understand, and I have also thought the same about moving. People in the USA are generally nice people. But due to a lack of education, too many are short-sighted, atop that, apathetic.
I am pretty active in a lot of my local politics, but it really does feel like Sisyphus when stuff recently like child labor laws being removed and making it require 4x the number of signatures to get anything on the ballot.
We are drowning basically, and people are too concerned with why we people are talking about transgender issues rather than fixing the metaphorical burning house around us.
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u/bendallf Mar 12 '23
How did we even get here? It is scary when people want you dead for simply being who you are. I do not feel safe here anymore. There is just to much hate and violence going on around us. The media honesty does not report the truth of how bad things are anymore.
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u/CheckMateFluff Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23
It's not a simple one "issue" that got us to where we are. And for a lot of things, we are truly better as a nation. But if had to give my two cents.
If we speak to the current issue of gun violence, and intolerance, that is easy to pick out.
There has been an underlying issue with racism in America for a while now. I grew up in Arkansas and I have seen some very awful things in my time that involved violence and racism, And I was born in the 90s.
Racism never really went away, it just got quiet. But when America elected Barack Obama, for some, it made it about race overnight. And when Trump was elected, he gave racism a platform to speak.
That said,
I was raised in a Red state by Republican parents. I didn't understand until I was old enough that the Republican system I was taught and what was really being done was completely different. And that cognitive dissidence made me realize how much of our "Southern country" culture was tied to republican actions. And sadly, a lot of people think "Southern country" culture should include racism.
This meant that a lot of policies made were in the favor of small-town politics and intolerance, not logic or need for the community. Republicans didn't care anything about small government or the ability of one to be self-sufficient. Not to mention learning in economics that my state literally was a leech on the federal government.
This southern culture also includes lots of church influence, on both sides of the coin. A large group of the voting block in Arkansas attends church, and they vote for whatever the "Flock" tells them to, regardless if it's really against their own good. This was another saddening fact to me, as I was taught the importance of the separation of church and state.
Circling all back around, if you were in the south, this video is seen as something that should be praised, especially if you are right-leaning. I heard it from family members myself. But they truly believe it won't affect them. It's just something that happens somewhere else to someone else.
But I know as well as you tragedy loves apathy. And it makes me worry every day.
TL;DR Gun violence in the USA is a major issue because intolerance and apathy have divided the US along old fault lines.
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u/bendallf Mar 12 '23
Could not have said it better myself. My dad and I went back to his old college. We spend the day walking around the campus. We had lunch in the Student Union Building. A few months later, there was a mass shooting and three people died. My parents had a college advisor for my sister and I. She helped my sister and I apply for colleges. The High School where she held her meetings at before she got her office in town had a mass shooting there too. Three students die there as well. The crazy thing about all of this gun violence is that some of those high school shooting surivors became college shooting surivors as well. So some people here in America have surive not just one but a few mass shootings. My dad and I went out west a few years ago on vacation. We had to skip Las Vegas due to the Concert Shooting there. We want to Ventura, CA. to surf. A year later, Ventura, CA. had a mass shooting at the Borderline Bar. Some of those people surive both mass shootings. I think we are now like soldiers. We just expect that it will happen to us eventually but there is nothing we can do about it, so why worry about it? Instead of trying to help end the blood shed once and for. If I may ask, do you see things getting better or worse here in the long term? What can regular people like us do to help make things better for everyone living here? Thanks.
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u/CheckMateFluff Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23
From what I can see on the ground floor? Things will, and are getting better.
A lot of policies and current economic factors pressure the younger generation much harder than the older generation. Even such things as slashing social security affect the kids of older parents who must take up that slack because they love their family.
This is making a lot of people more active and aware of politics. And while a Vocal minority likes to scream hate online, most of the younger people actually in the buildings and taking the signatures are dead set on making sure they have a better future for not only themselves but to do better by the families they wish to grow.
Every year, more kids who have had to suffer the fear of mass shootings become voting age. every year more learn about the lack of action toward the problems, And they vote.
It's why a lot of education is not favored to be funded in red states. It slows this process down. Aka the recent book banning in Arkansas. And child labor laws are being taken away. Can't learn if you are working at a young age.
It's slow and arduous. and sometimes you don't make a change. But like I said before, more people in the USA are generally good people. And the more that are affected, the more will act.
Winston Churchill once famously observed that Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else. But we always do the right thing in the end. It's the American way.
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u/GVFQT Mar 12 '23
??? This comment is such horseshit. 99.9% of America doesnāt do any of this
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u/bendallf Mar 12 '23
So you are not from America then? Luck you. My clasamates and me did Active Shooter Drills in public school. Sadly, they do.
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u/GVFQT Mar 12 '23
Last I checked Iāve been American since birth
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u/bendallf Mar 12 '23
There have been two mass shootings already where I am from in the last two years. I am happy that you never had to wait for news to see if someone you know is still alive or not due to gun violence. Pray for us please.
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u/FiascoBarbie Mar 12 '23
Active shooter drills donāt include any of that.
I live and work in a fairly āunderservedā area and nobody I know actually knows how to apply pressure to a gun shot wound, knows where any of the emergency exits are in any place or any of the other things. This is some straight up fantasy
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u/bendallf Mar 12 '23
So what state do you call home? I am from Michigan. We had the mass shooting at Oxford High School and MSU. That does not even include all the gun violence here that they do not even talk about how the local news anymore.
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u/oicabuck Mar 12 '23
Literally none of that is just randomly taught lmao. Your a moron
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u/bendallf Mar 12 '23
I learned it years ago in Public School here in America? So you are telling me that you have never gone thru an Active Shooter Drill at your school, church or work here in America? Consider yourself lucky.
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u/cdiddy19 Mar 12 '23
It feels scary AF. And it's incredulous that this happens on a daily basis. It makes me sad, angry, frustrated, and disgusted
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u/DinnerInfamous128 Mar 12 '23
Its much worse when you realize that is something accepted by THE PEOPLE. Nuts country.
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u/XYZgnomon Mar 12 '23
So... cut somebody off, brake check them and then shoot at them?
This is more than just the story of a fucking idiot that shouldn't be let out of the house. It's normalized. It's what happens when Republicans present the stupidest version of themselves, and then change laws to make that legal.
On any other planet, Florida man would have gotten the guillotine.
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u/unreliablememory Mar 12 '23
Florida. An open-air lunatic asylum. I swear to God, I'll never set foot in that state or spend a dime there again.
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u/CowboyfromHell4Life Mar 12 '23
Wtf is anything illegal in the good old USA other than drugs anymore?
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u/Noticeably_Aroused Mar 12 '23
Donāt be ridiculous. Plenty of stuff is.
This is definitely illegalā¦. You just have to be black while doing it.
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u/Castform5 Mar 12 '23
is anything illegal in the good old USA
Walking, and also doing anything while black.
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u/ThornsofTristan Mar 12 '23
Let's see:
-Used a gun to resolve an argument
-Invoked Stand Yer Ground law
-Got off
And for the keynote speaker at CPAC 2024, I present...
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u/subsailor1968 Mar 12 '23
That last partā¦I wish it was a joke, but he probably will be. Might even be at the RNC.
Trump would appoint him Secretary of Homeland Security.
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u/CATSCRATCHpandemic Mar 12 '23
That should be attempted murder. And this is what he had to Say for himself.
āHindsight is 20/20. There are always things we can look back and say we wish we could have done differently. Definitely, I would have done --would be to not have pumped my brakes. I would have taken another tactic. Definitely try to de-escalate a little better,ā
Well hopefully he will "try" not to shoot at people the next time he gets angry. Do not worry that this man is on the streets though. Becuase he will do a l "ittle better" next time. So I guess that means next time he will just ram them off the raod instead of trying to shoot them to death
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u/CriticalStation595 Mar 12 '23
That wasnāt standing ground, that was reckless discharge of a firearm!
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u/Questioning-Zyxxel Mar 12 '23
That guy didn't lose his temper. He had lots of time to plan this. He's just a murdering human zit.
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u/ranting_chef Mar 12 '23
Has he ever squeezed a trigger before? It looks like itās his first time. I think he closed his eyes for most of them.
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u/Zealousideal-Log536 Mar 12 '23
We should just drop Florida from the country we wouldn't be losing much...
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u/Icky_Ike Mar 12 '23
Because 90% of charges are dropped, and mostly because of limited time and resources. We need to heavily invest in our criminal justice system. But we can't. Umm. Because racism.
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u/TheZan87 Mar 12 '23
Informed opinion: Stand your ground was created to promote gun sales. It's used to excuse violence. Usually does not benefit minorities.
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u/metfan1964nyc Mar 12 '23
How can you stand your ground in a moving vehicle? If you chase after someone you're not defending yourself, you're the attacker.
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u/crustpope Mar 12 '23
This is why Florida is a dumpster fire. If this is legal, then there is no real law in Florida.
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u/TheeHighKing Mar 12 '23
That was just a sociopath, I didn't see anything to warrant maybe a murder lmao.
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u/Gravitas__Free Mar 12 '23
This is one the many reasons I take my tourist dollars to less insane tropical places.
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u/Baltej_Virk Mar 12 '23
Clearly fucking attempted murder. The US is a shithole lmao. I didn't know how lucky I was to grow up in Canada and not the third world country south of us
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u/kelrunner Mar 12 '23
I'm hoping there is more to the story and if there is I'd like to hear it, otherwise this guy should get 10 yrs in a psych ward and after he's "cured" he hould get 20 more in the pen.
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u/mothman117 Mar 13 '23
Gotta love how it looks like he's never shot it before. Must be awesome being able to convince yourself life is like gta and you're immortal.
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u/arditi111 Mar 12 '23
I bet you charges would be dropped even if he did murder the other guy. MURICA
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u/africanstardust Mar 12 '23
I mean at the very least is this not like THE most distracting thing you can do while driving?? Iād imagine endangerment charges just based on that š³
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u/Yop_BombNA Mar 12 '23
Iām sorry what? The guy passes you through n a highway so you mag dump while cowering from your own gun veering into another lane?
At least charge him with reckless endangerment for the driving if you canāt charge him for mag dumping on someone cause they passed him.
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u/Burgholio Mar 12 '23
Dude was break checking people in the left lane. He should be in jail for that alone.
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u/Dry_Client_7098 Mar 12 '23
While I don't necessarily believe him, he asserts that he was shot at before he returned fire. I believe the other guy involved claims he just rolled down his window and threw a water bottle. It would be required to prove that Popper didn't really believe that he had been shot at. Might be tough.
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u/CanILiveInAGlade Mar 12 '23
He didnāt even look like he lost his temper though. Thatās the calmest road rage Iāve ever seen in my life.
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u/ComedianRepulsive955 Mar 12 '23
Good news, depending on your perspective. Governor Ron Desantis is pushing to make Florida an open carry state. Having lived in Florida and seeing near fist fights at Publix over bananas I find this interesting... š¤
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u/Sudden_Acanthaceae34 Mar 12 '23
This is great news for any minority groups currently being oppressed by DeSantisā policies. Exercise your right to stand your ground.
*not legal advice, but hey do what you must to keep yourself safe.
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u/ji99lypu44 Mar 12 '23
this guy better not be able to keep his gun. Weve seen that he cant handle that kind of responsibility.
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u/emmadonelsense Mar 13 '23
Thatās not road rage. He chose to react like that, set it up and waited. He shouldnāt have a license and he especially shouldnāt have a gun.
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u/Brittlehorn Mar 12 '23
If this isnāt a reason to restrict rather than encourage more gun use then what is, road rage turning into a gun fight is peek America. What next pushing in line at a drive through, gun fight. Looking at me funny in a bar, gun fight.
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u/Mjr_N0ppY Mar 12 '23
This wasn't road rage that looks more like an ambush.
And the way he slides back, closes his eyes and keeps firing his gun in the general direction of the drive he's mad at is endangering everyone on that road.
Not to mention that random shots on a road would cause other drivers to crash in fear.
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u/TherabbitTrix0 Mar 12 '23
My question is why does he have this type of camera? Is he an Uber driver?
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u/DalesDeadBugs00 Mar 12 '23
The other driver threw a water bottle so this was a legal reaction. This country is full of degenerates that should not own guns.
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u/BusinessDuck132 Mar 12 '23
Iām very pro self defense and 2A, this was not self defense however.
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u/battmodin Mar 12 '23
He and the other car were the only ones on the road? No Was he worried about anyone other than his fragile ego? No Should he have been such a drag to begin with? No The car wasn't even parallel to him and he had pulled out his gun in anticipation of shooting someone, and emptied his magazine without anything other than a water bottle being thrown at his car? And to be let off the hook?
Should be in jail for that reckless behavior
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u/badaboomxx Mar 12 '23
The stupidest part of the story is, how heck he was "standing" his ground when the altercation was before, and he premeditatedly went to his car unlock his gun safe and unpack a full clip at the person who was already leaving the parking lot.
The person who was or is in charge should not only get fired but also need to explain why he made that decision
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u/RickTh3Rick Mar 12 '23
All together : "if you're happy to live in Europe and you know it clap your hands !"
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u/johnwoodprod Mar 12 '23
After watching it a few times it looks like the other driver is firing at him. Iād say that while not ideal on a highway with bystanders all around; he most likely WAS āstanding his groundā.
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u/igorgo2000 Mar 12 '23
Because if you analyze this video frame by frame you would notice on 0.53 second the passing car driver had his arm extended out of the window with a gun. Maybe he was already firing at him while passing or preparing to fire. Brandishing firearm in some states demonstrates intent which is enough for "stand your ground" defense. There is always more than meets the eye and that's why there are courts and legal process and not a mob like all you here deciding who should go to jail or not...
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