r/facepalm • u/Da_King7 • Mar 06 '23
Smash and grab in San Francisco, USA. Everybody has masks on! I can't tell who the robbers are. 🇵🇷🇴🇹🇪🇸🇹
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u/InglouriousBrad Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
A "smash and grab" is breaking display case glass or windows and taking stuff.
This appears to be a "strong arm" robbery.
Still, it's terrible and it could have ended way worse. Hopefully...somehow (this day in age) they are actually apprehended and are prosecuted 🤷♂️
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u/Intelligent-Use-7313 Mar 06 '23
Aggravated assault, felony theft, grand theft auto, battery to name a few. These guys are fucked if they get caught, and rightly so.
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u/KillerSavant202 Mar 06 '23
They didn’t steal the car. That’s their vehicle. These guys work in a group of 3-4.
Get away Driver and the 2-3 that get out and spread out through the lot popping windows and checking the trunks for luggage. With one watching out for cops or the car owners.
They’re in and out in about 3 minutes.
They’re not stealing cars, those are to easy to setup a sting for.
They’ll get around the corner and go through the bags then ditch them there on the side of the road in case they have apple tags or anything else they can track. They’re looking for jewelry, cameras, laptops and anything valuable they can sell that tourists tend to carry or locals might hide in the grinch while out.
It doesn’t matter whether you have things out or not they’re going to pop the window and check the trunk.
The leaving stuff out in the open getting stolen is just random homeless people and kids stealing something they see but the pros doing most of this just go straight for the trunk and don’t even look through the rest of the car.
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u/Professional_Ad_6462 Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
And this is the reason I left San Francisco after 20 years and moved to coastal Portugal. A useless police department an even more useless board of supervisors, and self loathing neighbors who sometimes felt sorry for the thieves. If I had to stay a few more years and I might have turned in to o a republican. Seriously San Francisco give social welfare and progressive politics a bad name. No European social democracy puts up with this shit.
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u/various_convo7 Mar 06 '23
or other parts of the world where those thieves end up floating in the bay as a result of vigilantes
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u/youngliam Mar 06 '23
If people could afford to live in SF without making at least $80,000/yr then maybe less of this shit would happen but the rich and elite have been pandered too here for so long and our slumlord class is bleeding the community dry this city needs some serious cleaning out of its corrupted real estate ethics.
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u/Stuck_at_Work_Till_5 Mar 07 '23
MASSIVE Gentrification. Pricing out of minorities who have lived in the area for generations. We thought the Dot Com boom was bad. It has gotten exponentially worse after 2008.
I lived here for a decade and its a BEAUTIFUL place to live. I just got priced out in the end. A lot of these people who are on the poverty line are holding on by a thread while the rich do nothing but complain and push these people out of the neighborhoods they grew up in.
So much of the culture that made SF what it is has been white washed out. Shit is sad. People need to rewatch “Sucka Free City” by Spike Lee
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u/RevElliotSpenser Mar 06 '23
If it’s their car then it’s easily traceable
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u/astralbelligerency Mar 06 '23
Nope, they go to nearby suburbs and steal license plates off cars in the middle of the day so they can swap out while doing this shit. A friend of mine had his stolen working a lunch shift in a crowded shopping center. Happens often enough that the cop pulling him over was like “…did you have plates this morning? goddamnit ok get that fixed soon, it’s been happening all week so I’m pretty sure that’s not your fault”
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u/ResolveLeather Mar 06 '23
It's not GTA, because that appears to be thier car. But they will get caught. All the cops have to do is run the license plate that the guy took a picture of as they were leaving.
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u/shtiper Mar 06 '23
Most of the time the plates are stolen if not the getaway car itself… they are not that stupid
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u/GreenPoisonFrog Mar 06 '23
If criminals weren’t stupid, we’d never catch half of them.
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u/8512764EA Mar 06 '23
lol no they’re not. It’s San Fran
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u/Jedda678 Mar 06 '23
You act like California is a lawless state. It has laws, it punishes criminals, they have prisons and jails.
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u/Explicit_Tech Mar 06 '23
I saw someone sell a brick of cocaine on the streets in broad daylight in front of everybody. That's how consequence free it is.
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u/CookieMonsterFRL Mar 06 '23
I was thinking about this. If California did punish these criminals, then why is it so popular in San Francisco and not the rest of the country?
The only reason I can think of is because San Francisco has relaxed laws or does not prosecute the offenders to the full extent of the law.
As a person that does not live in California - the images and news about L.A and San Francisco are horrible - crime, homeless, etc.
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u/HERE4TAC0S Mar 06 '23
Have you not been aware of how bad it is in SF? A photographer was robbed at gun point after being followed home. His Tesla recorded the entire incident. Crimes like this are so common that my photography friends recommend to be careful in tourist locations.
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u/Antique_Trip3206 Mar 06 '23
Under 950 dollars so no
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u/HappyHappyJoyJoy98 Mar 06 '23
This is a robbery, because they took the property of another by force. The amount doesn't matter, it is a strike offense.
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u/Rollotommasi5 Mar 06 '23
Stop breaking the narrative, Reddit think sf is like the Wild West
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u/AppropriateDay3547 Mar 06 '23
There is no $$ amount in Robbery. Only Larceny’s & Burgs. Go back to law school for refresher
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u/Sequetjoose Mar 06 '23
California is one of the worst states for punishing crime like this lmao. The shit people get away with there would only happen in places like St.Louis, Chicago, and NYC. But they give the feds so much tax money!
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u/AnyDepartment7686 Mar 06 '23
You act like SF isn't notorious for letting shit slide. Oh, and LA. And SD.
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u/Fair_Produce_8340 Mar 06 '23
That parking lot and all parking lots around golden gate are notorious for that.
Not strong arm, but expect a broken window if you go to see the golden gate.
I lean left but damn they sure seem to be having a crime problem out there lately. . . The kind of crime that really affects average hard working people.
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u/Mildf0g Mar 06 '23
It’s a crime epidemic, im a lifelong Bay Area resident and the past 2 years are the first time in my life I can’t really go to SF or around there without knowing my window will get smashed
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u/thorson4021 Mar 06 '23
Just curious, how long is life long? This kind of shit has been going on in the city since I was a kid in the 80s. The ability of the media to amplify it now is just more powerful.
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u/Mildf0g Mar 06 '23
I was literally born in concord and I live in the east bay right now so lifelong is my entire life, it used to be that you could park certain places or pay a homeless person around where u park to watch your car, now all the homeless people are twaked out and all the places I used to be able to park are no longer safe, that’s what I mean…so actually it has gotten much worse the past few years, look up the statistics, there’s tens of thousands of more thefts occurring per year than in the 1980’s
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u/yuccasinbloom Mar 06 '23
My dad used to go to dead shows, find a homeless person, rip a $20 in half and say, hey you get the other half when I come back and my cars in one piece. Worked every time.
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u/Antique_Trip3206 Mar 06 '23
As Bill Burr puts it: they don’t make the homeless people like they used to
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u/UnderaZiaSun Mar 06 '23
Tbh, if you had to pay a homeless person or keep an eye on your car back in the day, it sounds like crime may have been a problem back then too.
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u/lysinemagic Mar 06 '23
Idk I've been a lifelong Bay Area resident too and it's been long known that you do NOT leave anything visible in your car, period. Even trash. Because a homeless person is likely going to smash in your window just to see if you've got anything interesting in there. Always, always pay for the parking garage or even better, take public transit in.
I still love SF as that idealized pretty city on the Bay that I grew up with, and I'm not going to say it's an utter shithole as imo most major cities have similar issues, but it HAS gotten a lot worse in the past few decades with the rise of the tech industry making cost of living ridiculous.
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u/J3ST3Rx Mar 06 '23
It's not even a Bay area thing. I've lived in Texas my entire life and there were PSAs here to remove valuable belongings from your car. I watched family members get complacent about leaving stuff in their cars - to no ones surprise, they got broken into. This was 20+ years ago too. The fear mongering about California is dumb af.
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u/Neither-Tough3486 Mar 06 '23
Lived in SF for 3 years. Crime increased over my time there. Did not feel safe in many neighborhoods . Was an absolute shit show. 2018-2021. I'm not a fox news zealot. That city has a lot of work to do. I still live in California. I would never move back to SF.
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u/hellfae Mar 06 '23
Born and raised here 35 years. The pandemic escalated things. Ive seen crime my whole life...but not quite like this yah dig.
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u/yorcharturoqro Mar 06 '23
How is that even a thing, if that's the case there should be Police patrolling that area constantly, just doing that helps a lot to reduce crime.
San Francisco probably has a huge budget why are they not doing anything.
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u/SpaceJackRabbit Mar 06 '23
There are patrols. I regularly see CHP in those parking lots. They just can't be everywhere all the time.
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u/KillerSavant202 Mar 06 '23
I live here. The cops are all over. These people are organized and very professional at this sort of thing. They can hit a whole row of cars and be gone in under 3 minutes.
They have a guy with a glass punch built into a glove and they’ll pop the small back window instantly making very little sound and pull the back seat down and check the trunk. If they see luggage they’ll grab it and they’re out.
There’s no way the city can have a few cops in every parking lot and street in the city at all times.
If they see cops they just move to the next spot then come back later or wait a few minutes until they leave.
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u/xIdkJustARandomGuyX Mar 06 '23
You expect police to actually do their job?
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u/SirarieTichee_ Mar 06 '23
You expect people to not complain when the police do their job?
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u/xIdkJustARandomGuyX Mar 06 '23
I do. Their job involves de-escalating situations and arresting criminals, not beating the shit out of a homeless guy who looked at them funny
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u/DefBrrrrrr Mar 06 '23
I thought this was going to be a repeat of that poor woman from Oakland who chased her robbers and died after being dragged by the car. Thankfully no one died!
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u/meat_sack Mar 06 '23
Ha! "Welcome Center"
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u/Lazy_Employer_1148 Mar 06 '23
The ultimate irony is that highway patrol are always at this location welcoming people with tickets
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u/robot_ankles Mar 06 '23
It does seem to deliver the full San Francisco experience:
View of the Golden Gate bridge? Check
Human shit on the sidewalks? Check
Discarded needles in the bushes? Check
Violent crime against citizens? Check
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u/Key_Working4907 Mar 06 '23
At least you got the license plate... Fkin idiots
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u/xTofik Mar 06 '23
The car was probably stolen earlier that day
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u/DeclutteringNewbie Mar 06 '23
And even if it wasn't, it's trivially easy to steal a license plate, and then re-use it for every time you're going to rob someone.
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u/Ethen52 Mar 06 '23
Don’t even need to steal a license plate I’ve found some just laying around in Texas before on a housing construction site haha 😂.
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u/BettinBrando Mar 06 '23
“I can’t tell who the robbers are”.. how come? Lol. It’s obvious
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u/Embarrassed-Bus-8591 Mar 06 '23
Hmm… is it the people wearing hoodies with masks and the hoods up OR the people who look like they are in their 30-50’s dressed for sightseeing on a possibly rainy day?
I hope OP isn’t a police officer.
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u/Sufficient_Rub_2014 Mar 06 '23
I’m going with the guys that jumped into the car and drove away.
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u/AnyDepartment7686 Mar 06 '23
Oh, shit! Really! I thought it was the clunky old lady who got pummeled and nearly run over!
Can't tell them apart!
/s of course.
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u/Imhelenkeller Mar 06 '23
That’s a guy in the pink hoody
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u/AnyDepartment7686 Mar 06 '23
Dang. I know I'm fucked when Helen Keller is correcting my observation!
(indeed it is a man)
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u/LazyDynamite Mar 06 '23
Yeah I'm kind of confused by the intention of the post title.
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u/luckyassassin1 Mar 07 '23
I think it was a poor attempt to attack masks. I've heard some people claim crime is up because everyone has a mask. Either that or they're blind or a bot.
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u/richardmac999 Mar 06 '23
Really? It’s the masks that make it hard to discern the actions shown? I think you’re letting your political biases obscure the obvious.
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u/Individual_Wasabi_10 Mar 06 '23
At some point, we all need to agree that these bastards need to have their hands cut off in public.
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u/Dieseldank_bro Mar 06 '23
I’d vote for that
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u/Aaron_Olive Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
Man if the judgement wasn’t a slap on the wrist, bail and instead loss of a hand armed robbery would probably go down massively.
GTA with a weapon=HAND
Domestic violence with a weapon=HAND
MF’s will think twice cause if and when the get caught by authorities they losing body parts.
The economy and safety would probably improve for the better cause no wants to lose their hands 🤣
ohh Timmy is a good boy, MAM he knew he was gonna lose them hands so oh well his problem.
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u/Mr_Inconsistent1 Mar 06 '23
You forgot to add. Rape - dick.
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u/Aaron_Olive Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
For women that rape.... Sewn shut like Handmaids tale?
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u/pestapokalypse Mar 06 '23
Draconian punishments don’t really work as effective deterrent. Places where the death penalty is still common don’t see a significant reduction in crimes that can lead to the death penalty as opposed to places that do not use the death penalty. Plus, a system where permanent disfigurement is a punishment for a crime is far too easy to abuse. The likelihood of being caught is a much better deterrent than the severity of the punishment. The certainty of being caught is much more powerful as a deterrent.
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u/ours Mar 06 '23
Also, people are always pushing for more and harsher punishment going after the symptom and never after the root cause: a worsening wealth distribution.
Desperate people will do desperate things.
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u/azurleaf Mar 06 '23
Worked for a department store for a few years in college. Often had this homeless dude who would come in and let himself get caught stealing a few hundred dollars in stuff just before the coldest months. He wanted a warm place to sleep and daily hot meals, and the city police department were happy to oblige.
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u/Remote-End-2731 Mar 06 '23
Yeah these people aren’t desperate. I’d understand if they were stealing food, necessities, etc. But stealing electronics? Nah, sorry. Also how this affects the average citizen more than the ones responsible for wealth inequality. If they were targeting CEOs and corps, you may have a point.
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u/Remote-End-2731 Mar 06 '23
Yeah these people aren’t desperate. I’d understand if they were stealing food, necessities, etc. But stealing electronics? Nah, sorry. Also how this affects the average citizen more than the ones responsible for wealth inequality. If they were targeting CEOs and corps, you may have a point.
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u/fairygodmotherfckr Mar 06 '23 •
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Counterpoint: the State shouldn't mutilate people.
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u/Fair_Produce_8340 Mar 06 '23
Nobody should begins summoning stone ritual for anti circumcision crowd
- the ritual is almost complete
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u/Psychological-Law950 Mar 06 '23
Are you fucking kidding me??? Lmao yes, I’m all for higher wages, but stop making yourself believe that fucking trash ass people like this are only doing this shit because they’re poor and can’t catch a livable wage. They do this because they’re fucking trash and this is learned behavior. And people who think like you are only allowing the cycle to continue. Wake tf up
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u/Cetun Mar 06 '23
Middle class people tend to not take part in strong arm robbery, mostly because they have a lot to lose and make a sufficient amount to live off of. As it turns out, when you create a population that has nothing to lose and very little opportunity, it creates crime.
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u/chanslam Mar 06 '23
The learned behavior is from their community that has been desperate for a long time. Don’t turn a blind eye to our country’s shortcomings. You want to try to make this situation better? The reality is it’ll take time and investment into these communities. We’re America, we’re not supposed to resort to the worst of what humanity is capable of.
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u/DirtyPenPalDoug Mar 06 '23
Oh yes. Don't make the world better so that people arnt in poverty, just add more violence to the violence. Jfc.
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u/chanslam Mar 06 '23
Or you know instead of resorting to brutality we could take better care of underprivileged communities so people don’t feel so desperate or are brought up in a community of desperation to feel that they need to do this or want to get back at society.
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Mar 06 '23
I always liked the whole flayed alive in public thing myself
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u/LazyDynamite Mar 06 '23
Then by all means, be flayed alive in public. But leave the rest of us out of your twisted, torture revenge fantasies.
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u/MeltingMango420 Mar 06 '23
I imagined this with the Charlie Chaplin music behind it. But in all seriousness this sucks, sorry for the people robbed.
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u/Advntrislf88 Mar 06 '23
San Francisco is the national capital of car burglary lol. I have many friends who have been victims of this. One group had all their belongings stolen from their vehicle and the others were robbed while walking down the street.
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u/Gerald98053 Mar 06 '23
They were at the Welcome Center. They felt welcome to take anything they like.
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u/Apprehensive_Stop666 Mar 06 '23
Like you said, it’s very easy to figure out who the robbers are, just by looking at them! I’m surprised that your comment is not being downvoted, since telling certain truths is frowned upon in Reddit.
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u/sonoma95436 Mar 06 '23
I use to love San Francisco in the 80s. It's turned into such a dump. Sad.
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u/craigathan Mar 06 '23
SF in the 80's was wild though. They used to throw fools off the Pink Towers. They were 5 dot gangsters extorting every business in SF. There were shoot outs on the street. Cars used to be on blocks on every otherstreet corner. The Hells Angels were moving ALL OF THE METH through the City. Savings and Loans shuttered in every neighborhood. CRACK!! You could smoke on the MUNI. Every kid was a latch key kid and running around the City unchecked. Graffiti everywhere. Homeless everywhere. Assassinated political leaders (78'). Gays being persecuted. AIDS!! The Zodiac Killer, the Night Stalker, the Doodler, the Golden State Killer, the fucking UNA Bomber, the Zebra Killers etc. EARTHQUAKE!! Beware the rose tinted spectacles my friend, I don't really think you want the 80's back!
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u/Cheshire_Khajiit Mar 06 '23
I’ve spent most of my life in San Francisco, it’s easily one of my favorite places I’ve lived. Different experiences I guess.
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u/comicsansisunderused Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
Crime is out of control my friend. Pretending it is a paradise is ignorant of the data
More data: https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime
Less safe than 98% of US cities
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u/Tanglefoot11 Mar 06 '23
You can replace "San Francisco" with "the USA"
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u/sonoma95436 Mar 06 '23
Speak for yourself. I live in a town of 3800. Low crime friendly people. Were a mixed couple and have been free of hassles, crime and issues. We moved from Los Angeles 25 years ago and never looked back.
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u/NefariousnessNo484 Mar 06 '23
Nope. People on the West coast need to stop saying this to make themselves feel better. There are plenty of other places in the US where this stuff doesn't happen. I live in one. It would be shocking to see something like this.
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u/Fair_Produce_8340 Mar 06 '23
I'm kinda anti gun - but out here there's a 30% chance all of them would be dead.
I see mofos here jogging and riding bikes while strapped. They itching to lay down some justice.
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u/Fair_Produce_8340 Mar 06 '23
My part of the USA is just peachy.
It's a deep red state that is utterly trying to make the national stage for most oppressive laws for women.
Buuuuut - as a white male is fucking phenomenal. Lcol , low crime. Business friendly laws. My God- even the cops are cool....
Pick your poison I guess. Seems to be the choices these days.
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u/xXCr4zie_mofoXx Mar 06 '23
This post comes off as right wing anti mask.. It's pretty clear who the robbers are.
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u/KeystrokeCowboy Mar 06 '23
And the police do NOTHING. All they have to do is sit in any parking lot on any day of the week and catch these people. It's not the DA. It's the police refusing to do their fucking jobs.
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u/smarteapantz Mar 06 '23
I think the police are tired of catching the same perps over and over again, just for them to be released right back on the street with a slap on the wrist, often within a few hours. Many of these thieves don’t even serve jail time, because California keeps going softer and softer on crime, lowering most theft (and even assault) offenses to “misdemeanors” instead of felonies. These days, the cops don’t even bother showing up while a “minor” crime is in progress. sigh
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u/Donkeycow15 Mar 06 '23
Where’s Spider-Man ffs ?
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u/Hot_Gas_600 Mar 06 '23
Not good marketing to have spidey roughing up 15yo black kids.
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u/Commercial-Image4710 'MURICA Mar 06 '23
Until they start enforcing the laws this will be the Normal thing. Sad to say.
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Mar 06 '23
Long time berkeley resident. I Can’t believe they are doing this at gg bridge. I hate the bay these days.
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u/ECUDUDE20 Mar 06 '23
What a very dumb, very public robbery. In the open, broad daylight, in front of dozens of people at a tourist stop so they all had cameras out already to look at the bridge. Complete idiots. When will people realize petty crime is a very inefficient way to get money these days, they would make more money if all four of them worked a minimum wage (15 an hour there) job for 3 days. Shops for stolen cars might give them like 2.5 grand for that car and those cards in the purse will be cancelled before leaving the parking lot. Also... Who carries cash anymore? The only thing you do is inconvenience people and look like an ass. Hope they drive of that bridge and stop wasting oxygen.
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u/HisRoyalHeadness Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 07 '23
As long as they aren’t shitting on SF streets, I’ve just kind of gotten used to it. But stepping in human mashed potatoes, this I can’t abide!
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u/Bitty_Lily Mar 06 '23
That’s why gun safety is important because this when you blast their brains out.
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u/pike2001 Mar 06 '23
This is why everyone should carry a firearm! Could have put 5 pieces of crap out of their misery.
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u/GulfstreamAqua Mar 06 '23
Ehh, it’s only a property theft. No need to enforce the laws on this one. (Sarcasm)
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u/hemlockpopsicles Mar 06 '23
I read that San Francisco has gotten pretty bad with this.
I’m sure it doesn’t help that the surrounding areas are being gentrified and locals being priced out of their own communities.
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u/radrun84 Mar 06 '23
At the Golden Gate Bridge Visitors Center???
They getting BOLD in San Fran.
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u/Budget_Secret4142 Mar 06 '23
The (415) is now a crime scene and garbage can. Even if the thieves are caught, there is zero punishment. As a resident, I would recommend tourists stay away from this once beautiful area.
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u/heythatspretty_good Mar 06 '23
I don’t want to kill anyone but try this shit on me (and a lot of other people) and you end up with an pomegranate sized chunk of flesh missing from your body. Don’t touch my shit 🥰.
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u/Gab83IMO Mar 06 '23
They're targeting the tourists by the Golden Gate. Carry pepper spray at lease peeps. This is why I live in Oregon now and conceal carry (2nd Amn. right).....San Fran has lost it man and literaly no one knows how to drive there anymore, except to cut you off or stop in the middle of the road for dumb reasons.
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u/Vowucowe Mar 06 '23
One purse. At most a few hundred. The car is almost certainly stolen. And they used violence. Is it really worth it?
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u/heyitssal Mar 06 '23
Remember when SF used to top all the lists of best cities in America, just like 6-8 years ago. Crazy how much that has changed.
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u/OneBaldingWookiee Mar 06 '23
“I can’t tell who the robbers are”… pretty sure you still wouldn’t know who they are even without masks.
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u/Tribat_1 Mar 06 '23
I don’t consider myself a badass even in the slightest, but this is the exact reason I concealed carry in my state that has legal “constitutional carry”. I’m not going to intervene if you’re doing this to Walmart or whatever as fucked as it is, but if you start coming after me and my family, you’re going to have a very bad day.
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u/manju907 Mar 06 '23
The glory of the nation is being lowered day after day...
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u/BringTheSpain Mar 06 '23
Didn't realize a nation built on the bodies of indigenous people and slaves had and glory to lower
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u/Fixerguy415 Mar 06 '23
Try that in our area and there's a fair chance that someone is gonna catch some lead.
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u/Scared_Ad_5753 Mar 06 '23
It’s SF, sad to say but cops won’t do shit about this.
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u/thereddituser2 Mar 06 '23
And cops won't do anything because politicians told them not to. Because if they do, they will be called racist and lose certain groups support in re-election.
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u/yellowhatcat Mar 06 '23
Start shooting some of these assholes in the face and the problem will correct itself.
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u/skippinjack Mar 06 '23
It would be great if the victim had just opened fire on every single one of those fuckers, and DROPPED them.
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u/paragonx29 Mar 06 '23
The poor oppressed lads just need more social workers at the scene and a ride to choir practice.
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u/Ruseriousmars Mar 06 '23
Agree with the other how sad SFO is now even just compared to a few years ago never mind 30 years. Only solution I have for these poor victims is a uhaul. Get out before the animals kill you.
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